Hooking old apps to SQL 2005

We would like to have our old apps talk with SQL 2005. What do I have to do
to make that happen. I have installed the SQL 2005 native client, and
defined an alias to the SQL Server. I still get connection errors so
obviously I have not done enough to set this up, or it can't be done .
Can someone direct me to some documentation or explain how to do this?
Thanks.
BarryNevermind, got it working
"barryfz" <barry@.noemail.noemail> wrote in message
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> We would like to have our old apps talk with SQL 2005. What do I have to
> do to make that happen. I have installed the SQL 2005 native client, and
> defined an alias to the SQL Server. I still get connection errors so
> obviously I have not done enough to set this up, or it can't be done .
> Can someone direct me to some documentation or explain how to do this?
> Thanks.
> --
> Barry
>|||Would you be willing to post the results so we can see how you did it?
--
burt_king@.yahoo.com
"barryfz" wrote:

> Nevermind, got it working
>
> "barryfz" <barry@.noemail.noemail> wrote in message
> news:u5NWWks7FHA.4076@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>

hooking into sql server file I/O -- file level encryption

There are a number of third party packages that do "whole file"
encryption of SQL databases. For example:
Encryptionizer (http://www.netlib.com/)
XP_CRYPT (http://www.xpcrypt.com/)
We are considering using one of these products, but I am wondering if
it is possible to "roll our own". We have some experience doing this
with sqlite; because sqlite is open source, it is relatively easy to
hook into the "pager" and perform custom encryption/decryption.
What I'd like to know is whether something similar is possible with
SQL Server (or more specifically MSDE). Or rather, clearly it is
_possible_, since the above products do it. But how? How do these
products insert themselves between the database engine and the
physical file I/O?
I speculate that they are re-implementing some file IO interfaces used
by SQL, but I don't know where to start looking for what those
interfaces might be or where they live in the registry. Or maybe I am
off base and there are some hooks provided by SQL I don't know about.
I have scoured MSDN and Google but it appears to be a difficult topic
to query.
Does anyone have any idea how this works?
TIA,
Rol(rolandp66@.yahoo.com) writes:
> There are a number of third party packages that do "whole file"
> encryption of SQL databases. For example:
> Encryptionizer (http://www.netlib.com/)
> XP_CRYPT (http://www.xpcrypt.com/)
> We are considering using one of these products, but I am wondering if
> it is possible to "roll our own". We have some experience doing this
> with sqlite; because sqlite is open source, it is relatively easy to
> hook into the "pager" and perform custom encryption/decryption.
> What I'd like to know is whether something similar is possible with
> SQL Server (or more specifically MSDE). Or rather, clearly it is
> _possible_, since the above products do it. But how? How do these
> products insert themselves between the database engine and the
> physical file I/O?
> I speculate that they are re-implementing some file IO interfaces used
> by SQL, but I don't know where to start looking for what those
> interfaces might be or where they live in the registry. Or maybe I am
> off base and there are some hooks provided by SQL I don't know about.
> I have scoured MSDN and Google but it appears to be a difficult topic
> to query.
The way to do it would indeed be to intercept the file I/O system calls.
Since SQL Server uses the interfaces in NTFS, the tool would have to
be configured to only encrypt selected files, since else you would be
encrypting - and deenscrypting - the entire disk.
Whether this actually is doable I don't know. You would have to ask in
a Windows newsgroup to get some tips on that. But I would assume that
whatever you do, it would be entirely unsupported.
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se
Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...oads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodin...ions/books.mspx|||I may be missing something basic here but wouldn't it be a lot easier to
just use NTFS encryption to encrypt the files? One checkbox in the file
attributes seems a lot easier than writing your own disk driver.
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Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
<rolandp66@.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1175719135.450235.272090@.b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> There are a number of third party packages that do "whole file"
> encryption of SQL databases. For example:
> Encryptionizer (http://www.netlib.com/)
> XP_CRYPT (http://www.xpcrypt.com/)
> We are considering using one of these products, but I am wondering if
> it is possible to "roll our own". We have some experience doing this
> with sqlite; because sqlite is open source, it is relatively easy to
> hook into the "pager" and perform custom encryption/decryption.
> What I'd like to know is whether something similar is possible with
> SQL Server (or more specifically MSDE). Or rather, clearly it is
> _possible_, since the above products do it. But how? How do these
> products insert themselves between the database engine and the
> physical file I/O?
> I speculate that they are re-implementing some file IO interfaces used
> by SQL, but I don't know where to start looking for what those
> interfaces might be or where they live in the registry. Or maybe I am
> off base and there are some hooks provided by SQL I don't know about.
> I have scoured MSDN and Google but it appears to be a difficult topic
> to query.
> Does anyone have any idea how this works?
> TIA,
> Rol
>|||Roger Wolter[MSFT] (rwolter@.online.microsoft.com) writes:
> I may be missing something basic here but wouldn't it be a lot easier to
> just use NTFS encryption to encrypt the files? One checkbox in the file
> attributes seems a lot easier than writing your own disk driver.
Just for fun, I stopped my SQL 2000 instance and then encrypted the
Northwind database from Explorer. When I started SQL Server, I found that
I was not able to access Northwind. This was what the SQL Server had to
tell me:
2007-04-07 11:10:32.17 spid9 Device activation error. The physical file
name 'E:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\northwnd.mdf' may be
incorrect.
2007-04-07 11:10:32.31 spid9 udopen: Operating system error 5(error not
found) during the creation/opening of physical device E:\Program Files\Micro
soft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\northwnd.ldf.
2007-04-07 11:10:32.31 spid9 FCB::Open failed: Could not open device E:\
Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\northwnd.ldf for virtual devic
e number (VDN) 2.
Now, I know zero about NTFS encryption, so there may be a simple solution,
but I figured that I should make this note, in case someone would get the
idea to try this for real.
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se
Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...oads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodin...ions/books.mspx|||The key is associated with the user who does the encrypting so if you're not
encrypting while logged in as the domain user that sqlservr.exe executes as,
SQL won't be able to read the file.
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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"Erland Sommarskog" <esquel@.sommarskog.se> wrote in message
news:Xns990B72C517060Yazorman@.127.0.0.1...
> Roger Wolter[MSFT] (rwolter@.online.microsoft.com) writes:
> Just for fun, I stopped my SQL 2000 instance and then encrypted the
> Northwind database from Explorer. When I started SQL Server, I found that
> I was not able to access Northwind. This was what the SQL Server had to
> tell me:
> 2007-04-07 11:10:32.17 spid9 Device activation error. The physical
> file name 'E:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\northwnd.mdf'
> may be incorrect.
> 2007-04-07 11:10:32.31 spid9 udopen: Operating system error 5(error
> not found) during the creation/opening of physical device E:\Program
> Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\northwnd.ldf.
> 2007-04-07 11:10:32.31 spid9 FCB::Open failed: Could not open device
> E:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\data\northwnd.ldf for virtual
> device number (VDN) 2.
>
> Now, I know zero about NTFS encryption, so there may be a simple solution,
> but I figured that I should make this note, in case someone would get the
> idea to try this for real.
>
> --
> Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se
> Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...oads/books.mspx
> Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
> http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodin...ions/books.mspx|||Roger Wolter[MSFT] (rwolter@.online.microsoft.com) writes:
> The key is associated with the user who does the encrypting so if you're
> not encrypting while logged in as the domain user that sqlservr.exe
> executes as, SQL won't be able to read the file.
I suspected it was something like that, but I didn't feel like testing it.
Thanks for straighten it out, Roger.
Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@.sommarskog.se
Books Online for SQL Server 2005 at
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pr...oads/books.mspx
Books Online for SQL Server 2000 at
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodin...ions/books.mspxsql

Hong kong fonts

I am using sql server 2000 english
Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese font
crack...
But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text can be
shown
is it microsoft bug?Izumi,
It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much information.
If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you have
code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
both character sets.
Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar, nvarchar,
text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data file
import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do you
do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you use
N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
SK
izumi wrote:
>I am using sql server 2000 english
>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese font
>crack...
>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text can be
>shown
>is it microsoft bug?
>
>|||Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
u really understand my story
ok
let me explain
ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
It is not GB
It is Big5 actually
but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some hong
kong words
http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
you can see the details
The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
sure I use N'...in asp page
And i use nvarchar for data type
it is unicode
that what I said it was running well before
but for special hong kong character
when insert, the words is crack
when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Izumi,
> It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much information.
> If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
> Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you have
> code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
> If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
> both character sets.
> Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar, nvarchar,
> text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data file
> import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do you
> do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you use
> N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
> It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
> SK
> izumi wrote:
> >I am using sql server 2000 english
> >
> >Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
> >
> >But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese font
> >crack...
> >
> >But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text can
be
> >shown
> >
> >is it microsoft bug?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>|||Izumi,
Do you update from the asp page also? If insert and update are both
from asp page, but insert does not work, I'm not sure what the problem is.
What codepage does your asp page expect for input? Supplementary Hong
Kong character set is a new code page, 951.
SK
izumi wrote:
>Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
>u really understand my story
>ok
>let me explain
>ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
>It is not GB
>It is Big5 actually
>but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
>so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some hong
>kong words
>http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
>you can see the details
>The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
>sure I use N'...in asp page
>And i use nvarchar for data type
>it is unicode
>that what I said it was running well before
>but for special hong kong character
>when insert, the words is crack
>when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
>
>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
>news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>>Izumi,
>>It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much information.
>>If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
>>Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you have
>>code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
>>If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
>>both character sets.
>>Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar, nvarchar,
>>text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data file
>>import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do you
>>do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you use
>>N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
>>It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
>>SK
>>izumi wrote:
>>
>>I am using sql server 2000 english
>>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
>>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese font
>>crack...
>>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text can
>>
>be
>
>>shown
>>is it microsoft bug?
>>
>>
>>
>
>|||good point
i am using 950
let me try 951
sure both method is doing on Asp
"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
news:%23n5KoLQ0DHA.3116@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Izumi,
> Do you update from the asp page also? If insert and update are both
> from asp page, but insert does not work, I'm not sure what the problem
is.
> What codepage does your asp page expect for input? Supplementary Hong
> Kong character set is a new code page, 951.
> SK
>
> izumi wrote:
> >Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
> >u really understand my story
> >
> >ok
> >let me explain
> >ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
> >It is not GB
> >It is Big5 actually
> >but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
> >so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some hong
> >kong words
> >http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
> >you can see the details
> >The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
> >sure I use N'...in asp page
> >And i use nvarchar for data type
> >it is unicode
> >that what I said it was running well before
> >but for special hong kong character
> >when insert, the words is crack
> >when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
> >
> >
> >"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> >news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> >>Izumi,
> >>
> >>It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much information.
> >>If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
> >>Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you have
> >>code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
> >>
> >>If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
> >>both character sets.
> >>
> >>Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar, nvarchar,
> >>text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data file
> >>import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do you
> >>do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you use
> >>N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
> >>
> >>It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
> >>
> >>SK
> >>
> >>izumi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I am using sql server 2000 english
> >>
> >>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
> >>
> >>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese font
> >>crack...
> >>
> >>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text can
> >>
> >>
> >be
> >
> >
> >>shown
> >>
> >>is it microsoft bug?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>|||when i change to <%
Session.CodePage=9511
Response.Charset="big5"
%>
but it show error on asp
rror Type:
SessionID, ASP 0204 (0x80004005)
An invalid CodePage value was specified.
"izumi" <test@.test.com> wrote in message
news:OtkahXQ0DHA.1700@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> good point
> i am using 950
> let me try 951
> sure both method is doing on Asp
> "Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> news:%23n5KoLQ0DHA.3116@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Izumi,
> >
> > Do you update from the asp page also? If insert and update are both
> > from asp page, but insert does not work, I'm not sure what the problem
> is.
> > What codepage does your asp page expect for input? Supplementary Hong
> > Kong character set is a new code page, 951.
> >
> > SK
> >
> >
> > izumi wrote:
> >
> > >Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
> > >u really understand my story
> > >
> > >ok
> > >let me explain
> > >ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
> > >It is not GB
> > >It is Big5 actually
> > >but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
> > >so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some
hong
> > >kong words
> > >http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
> > >you can see the details
> > >The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
> > >sure I use N'...in asp page
> > >And i use nvarchar for data type
> > >it is unicode
> > >that what I said it was running well before
> > >but for special hong kong character
> > >when insert, the words is crack
> > >when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
> > >
> > >
> > >"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> > >news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > >
> > >
> > >>Izumi,
> > >>
> > >>It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much
information.
> > >>If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
> > >>Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you have
> > >>code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
> > >>
> > >>If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
> > >>both character sets.
> > >>
> > >>Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar,
nvarchar,
> > >>text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data file
> > >>import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do you
> > >>do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you use
> > >>N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
> > >>
> > >>It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
> > >>
> > >>SK
> > >>
> > >>izumi wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I am using sql server 2000 english
> > >>
> > >>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
> > >>
> > >>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese font
> > >>crack...
> > >>
> > >>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text
can
> > >>
> > >>
> > >be
> > >
> > >
> > >>shown
> > >>
> > >>is it microsoft bug?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>|||Did you type 951 or 9511? I don't have any other good ideas, but I will
mention this question to Microsoft and see what they say.
SK
izumi wrote:
>when i change to <%
>Session.CodePage=9511
>Response.Charset="big5"
>%>
>but it show error on asp
>rror Type:
>SessionID, ASP 0204 (0x80004005)
>An invalid CodePage value was specified.
>"izumi" <test@.test.com> wrote in message
>news:OtkahXQ0DHA.1700@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>
>>good point
>>i am using 950
>>let me try 951
>>sure both method is doing on Asp
>>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
>>news:%23n5KoLQ0DHA.3116@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>
>>Izumi,
>>Do you update from the asp page also? If insert and update are both
>>from asp page, but insert does not work, I'm not sure what the problem
>>
>>is.
>>
>>What codepage does your asp page expect for input? Supplementary Hong
>>Kong character set is a new code page, 951.
>>SK
>>
>>izumi wrote:
>>
>>Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
>>u really understand my story
>>ok
>>let me explain
>>ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
>>It is not GB
>>It is Big5 actually
>>but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
>>so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some
>>
>hong
>
>>kong words
>>http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
>>you can see the details
>>The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
>>sure I use N'...in asp page
>>And i use nvarchar for data type
>>it is unicode
>>that what I said it was running well before
>>but for special hong kong character
>>when insert, the words is crack
>>when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
>>
>>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
>>news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>Izumi,
>>It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much
>>
>information.
>
>>If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
>>Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you have
>>code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
>>If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
>>both character sets.
>>Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar,
>>
>nvarchar,
>
>>text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data file
>>import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do you
>>do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you use
>>N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
>>It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
>>SK
>>izumi wrote:
>>
>>
>>I am using sql server 2000 english
>>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
>>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese font
>>crack...
>>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text
>>
>can
>
>>
>>be
>>
>>
>>shown
>>is it microsoft bug?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>|||sorry I change to 951
ASP Error
"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
news:e9fvssR0DHA.832@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Did you type 951 or 9511? I don't have any other good ideas, but I will
> mention this question to Microsoft and see what they say.
> SK
> izumi wrote:
> >when i change to <%
> >Session.CodePage=9511
> >Response.Charset="big5"
> >%>
> >but it show error on asp
> >rror Type:
> >SessionID, ASP 0204 (0x80004005)
> >An invalid CodePage value was specified.
> >"izumi" <test@.test.com> wrote in message
> >news:OtkahXQ0DHA.1700@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> >>good point
> >>i am using 950
> >>let me try 951
> >>
> >>sure both method is doing on Asp
> >>
> >>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> >>news:%23n5KoLQ0DHA.3116@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>
> >>Izumi,
> >>
> >>Do you update from the asp page also? If insert and update are both
> >>from asp page, but insert does not work, I'm not sure what the problem
> >>
> >>
> >>is.
> >>
> >>
> >>What codepage does your asp page expect for input? Supplementary Hong
> >>Kong character set is a new code page, 951.
> >>
> >>SK
> >>
> >>
> >>izumi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
> >>u really understand my story
> >>
> >>ok
> >>let me explain
> >>ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
> >>It is not GB
> >>It is Big5 actually
> >>but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
> >>so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some
> >>
> >>
> >hong
> >
> >
> >>kong words
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
> >>you can see the details
> >>The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
> >>sure I use N'...in asp page
> >>And i use nvarchar for data type
> >>it is unicode
> >>that what I said it was running well before
> >>but for special hong kong character
> >>when insert, the words is crack
> >>when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
> >>
> >>
> >>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> >>news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Izumi,
> >>
> >>It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much
> >>
> >>
> >information.
> >
> >
> >>If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
> >>Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you
have
> >>code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
> >>
> >>If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
> >>both character sets.
> >>
> >>Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar,
> >>
> >>
> >nvarchar,
> >
> >
> >>text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data
file
> >>import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do
you
> >>do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you
use
> >>N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
> >>
> >>It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
> >>
> >>SK
> >>
> >>izumi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I am using sql server 2000 english
> >>
> >>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
> >>
> >>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese
font
> >>crack...
> >>
> >>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text
> >>
> >>
> >can
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>be
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>shown
> >>
> >>is it microsoft bug?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>|||Ok lets wait
I will call our users to use update function
that mean insert something rubbish, and then update that row of data.
Thanks
"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
news:e9fvssR0DHA.832@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Did you type 951 or 9511? I don't have any other good ideas, but I will
> mention this question to Microsoft and see what they say.
> SK
> izumi wrote:
> >when i change to <%
> >Session.CodePage=9511
> >Response.Charset="big5"
> >%>
> >but it show error on asp
> >rror Type:
> >SessionID, ASP 0204 (0x80004005)
> >An invalid CodePage value was specified.
> >"izumi" <test@.test.com> wrote in message
> >news:OtkahXQ0DHA.1700@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> >>good point
> >>i am using 950
> >>let me try 951
> >>
> >>sure both method is doing on Asp
> >>
> >>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> >>news:%23n5KoLQ0DHA.3116@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>
> >>Izumi,
> >>
> >>Do you update from the asp page also? If insert and update are both
> >>from asp page, but insert does not work, I'm not sure what the problem
> >>
> >>
> >>is.
> >>
> >>
> >>What codepage does your asp page expect for input? Supplementary Hong
> >>Kong character set is a new code page, 951.
> >>
> >>SK
> >>
> >>
> >>izumi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
> >>u really understand my story
> >>
> >>ok
> >>let me explain
> >>ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
> >>It is not GB
> >>It is Big5 actually
> >>but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
> >>so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some
> >>
> >>
> >hong
> >
> >
> >>kong words
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
> >>you can see the details
> >>The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
> >>sure I use N'...in asp page
> >>And i use nvarchar for data type
> >>it is unicode
> >>that what I said it was running well before
> >>but for special hong kong character
> >>when insert, the words is crack
> >>when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
> >>
> >>
> >>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> >>news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Izumi,
> >>
> >>It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much
> >>
> >>
> >information.
> >
> >
> >>If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
> >>Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you
have
> >>code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
> >>
> >>If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
> >>both character sets.
> >>
> >>Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar,
> >>
> >>
> >nvarchar,
> >
> >
> >>text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data
file
> >>import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do
you
> >>do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you
use
> >>N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
> >>
> >>It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
> >>
> >>SK
> >>
> >>izumi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I am using sql server 2000 english
> >>
> >>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
> >>
> >>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese
font
> >>crack...
> >>
> >>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text
> >>
> >>
> >can
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>be
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>shown
> >>
> >>is it microsoft bug?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>|||izumi,
If you speak Chinese, you might find some help by posting your
question to the newsgroup microsoft.cn.iis.asp. There is also a
Japanese inetserver.asp group and several English newsgroups under
microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.
Steve
izumi wrote:
>Ok lets wait
>I will call our users to use update function
>that mean insert something rubbish, and then update that row of data.
>Thanks
>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
>news:e9fvssR0DHA.832@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
>>Did you type 951 or 9511? I don't have any other good ideas, but I will
>>mention this question to Microsoft and see what they say.
>>SK
>>izumi wrote:
>>
>>when i change to <%
>>Session.CodePage=9511
>>Response.Charset="big5"
>>%>
>>but it show error on asp
>>rror Type:
>>SessionID, ASP 0204 (0x80004005)
>>An invalid CodePage value was specified.
>>"izumi" <test@.test.com> wrote in message
>>news:OtkahXQ0DHA.1700@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>good point
>>i am using 950
>>let me try 951
>>sure both method is doing on Asp
>>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
>>news:%23n5KoLQ0DHA.3116@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>Izumi,
>>Do you update from the asp page also? If insert and update are both
>>
>>from asp page, but insert does not work, I'm not sure what the problem
>>
>>
>>is.
>>
>>
>>What codepage does your asp page expect for input? Supplementary Hong
>>Kong character set is a new code page, 951.
>>SK
>>
>>izumi wrote:
>>
>>
>>Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
>>u really understand my story
>>ok
>>let me explain
>>ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
>>It is not GB
>>It is Big5 actually
>>but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
>>so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some
>>
>>
>>hong
>>
>>
>>kong words
>>http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
>>you can see the details
>>The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
>>sure I use N'...in asp page
>>And i use nvarchar for data type
>>it is unicode
>>that what I said it was running well before
>>but for special hong kong character
>>when insert, the words is crack
>>when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
>>
>>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
>>news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>
>>
>>
>>>Izumi,
>>>
>>>It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>information.
>>
>>
>>>If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding and
>>>Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you
>>>
>>>
>have
>
>>>code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
>>>
>>>If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to handle
>>>both character sets.
>>>
>>>Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>nvarchar,
>>
>>
>>>text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data
>>>
>>>
>file
>
>>>import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do
>>>
>>>
>you
>
>>>do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you
>>>
>>>
>use
>
>>>N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
>>>
>>>It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
>>>
>>>SK
>>>
>>>izumi wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I am using sql server 2000 english
>>>
>>>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
>>>
>>>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese
>>>
>>>
>font
>
>>>crack...
>>>
>>>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the text
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>can
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>be
>>
>>
>>
>>>shown
>>>
>>>is it microsoft bug?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>|||I am pure Hong kong guy
anyway
thanks for your help
but i would like to wait microsoft's reply from your side......
if any update, can u send to hokalun@.netvigator.com
Thanks a lot
"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> ¦b¶l¥ó
news:urZwI8N1DHA.2480@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl ¤¤¼¶¼g...
> izumi,
> If you speak Chinese, you might find some help by posting your
> question to the newsgroup microsoft.cn.iis.asp. There is also a
> Japanese inetserver.asp group and several English newsgroups under
> microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet.
> Steve
> izumi wrote:
> >Ok lets wait
> >I will call our users to use update function
> >that mean insert something rubbish, and then update that row of data.
> >
> >Thanks
> >"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> >news:e9fvssR0DHA.832@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >
> >
> >>Did you type 951 or 9511? I don't have any other good ideas, but I will
> >>mention this question to Microsoft and see what they say.
> >>
> >>SK
> >>
> >>izumi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>when i change to <%
> >>Session.CodePage=9511
> >>Response.Charset="big5"
> >>%>
> >>but it show error on asp
> >>rror Type:
> >>SessionID, ASP 0204 (0x80004005)
> >>An invalid CodePage value was specified.
> >>"izumi" <test@.test.com> wrote in message
> >>news:OtkahXQ0DHA.1700@.TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>good point
> >>i am using 950
> >>let me try 951
> >>
> >>sure both method is doing on Asp
> >>
> >>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> >>news:%23n5KoLQ0DHA.3116@.TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Izumi,
> >>
> >>Do you update from the asp page also? If insert and update are both
> >>
> >>
> >>from asp page, but insert does not work, I'm not sure what the
problem
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>is.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>What codepage does your asp page expect for input? Supplementary
Hong
> >>Kong character set is a new code page, 951.
> >>
> >>SK
> >>
> >>
> >>izumi wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Good, I find the good person to solve the problem
> >>u really understand my story
> >>
> >>ok
> >>let me explain
> >>ASP page to insert and update the character to sql server
> >>It is not GB
> >>It is Big5 actually
> >>but there are around 5000 Hong Kong words which is not Big5
> >>so we need some additional hong kong character set to recongize some
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>hong
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>kong words
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/hk/hkscs/default.asp
> >>you can see the details
> >>The word I cannot insert is one out of 5000
> >>sure I use N'...in asp page
> >>And i use nvarchar for data type
> >>it is unicode
> >>that what I said it was running well before
> >>but for special hong kong character
> >>when insert, the words is crack
> >>when update hong kong character, it is running well, no crack
> >>
> >>
> >>"Steve Kass" <skass@.drew.edu> wrote in message
> >>news:uFMQzcP0DHA.604@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Izumi,
> >>>
> >>>It is difficult to know, because you have not provided much
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>information.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>If you are inserting Simplified Chinese characters in GB encoding
and
> >>>Traditional (Hong Kong) characters in Big-5 encoding, perhaps you
> >>>
> >>>
> >have
> >
> >
> >>>code page support only for GB and not Big-5.
> >>>
> >>>If you can use Unicode in all cases, it should be possible to
handle
> >>>both character sets.
> >>>
> >>>Please tell us the data type of the column (probably varchar,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>nvarchar,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>text, or ntext) how you are inserting data. INSERT query, or data
> >>>
> >>>
> >file
> >
> >
> >>>import, or typing in Enterprise Manager or some tool? Also, how do
> >>>
> >>>
> >you
> >
> >
> >>>do the update? If you specify character strings in a query, do you
> >>>
> >>>
> >use
> >
> >
> >>>N'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' or 'ÄãµÄºº×Ö' (is there N or not for Unicode)?
> >>>
> >>>It could also be a bug, and the additional information will help.
> >>>
> >>>SK
> >>>
> >>>izumi wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>I am using sql server 2000 english
> >>>
> >>>Once i insert chinese font, it is ok
> >>>
> >>>But when I insert one hong kong font, then it make whole chinese
> >>>
> >>>
> >font
> >
> >
> >>>crack...
> >>>
> >>>But when i copy whole message and update(not insert), then the
text
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>can
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>be
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>shown
> >>>
> >>>is it microsoft bug?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Honeywell OLE DB Source Exception - RPC_E_SERVERFAULT

Hello,

Visual Studio is throwing an exception to an OLE DB source. The provider is Honeywell's and it allows access to its PHD system. The SQL command is:

Code Snippet

SELECT TAGNAME, TAGNO, TIMESTAMP, VALUE, CONF, UNITS
FROM IP_PHD_RAW
WHERE (TAGNAME IN ('T701.SPAVAILABILITY_DAY.BC', 'T200.F2AVAILABILITY_DAY.BC')) AND TIMESTAMP > '2006-04-01'

You can view the data Using Query Build successful return. However, Visual Studio throws this exception for everything else:

Code Snippet

The server threw an exception. (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80010105 (RPC_E_SERVERFAULT)) (Microsoft Visual Studio)

Program Location:

at Microsoft.SqlServer.Dts.Pipeline.Wrapper.CManagedComponentWrapperClass.ReinitializeMetaData()
at Microsoft.DataTransformationServices.DataFlowUI.DataFlowComponentUI.ReinitializeMetadata()
at Microsoft.DataTransformationServices.DataFlowUI.DataFlowAdapterUI.connectionPage_SaveConnectionAttributes(Object sender, ConnectionAttributesEventArgs args)

If you know the cause of the problem or how to access Honeywell data in PHD, I would be appreciative for your assistance.

Visual Studio? Are your building a SSIS package? What have you done? What connection type?

Talk to Honeywell and find out what scenarios their provider is supported under, should it work with SSIS?

|||

Darren,

Using Professional Edition of visual studio to build the SSIS package and the OLE DB provider is from Honeywell. I'm able to view the data using the Query Builder with a SQL command. However, visual studio crashes when you select to see the Columns on the return trip to the OLE DB Source Editor.

I’m open to any suggestions

Thanks for taking an interest,

Ian

|||

Darren,

I think the Honeywell PHD is an OPC server (OLE for Process Control). It may be that Query Tool you are using mimics an OPC client enough for Honeywell to respond but your application doesn't. Sorry to say, my experience accessing Honeywell data is with an "off the shelf" OPC Client, not one I've written myself. However, you may find enough information at the OPC Foundations web site (http://www.opcfoundation.org/) to aid you.

On another note, the Honeywell PHD does come with an Oracle database. It stores configuration information about the Honeywell data as well as information on how well your Honeywell system is running. It is accessible via OLE DB or ODBC. But you probably already know that.

Hope this helps some.

Maineac

PI System Administrator

|||

Hello,

The Honeywell provider is only a partial implementation of OLE. They believe that a schema needed be returned as the data source has only one table, or some obscure reason. I’m guessing that Intergraded Services visual programming nature relies on a schema and crashes with no is found. My question now is, can I create a Data Source without using the visual method, define a file holding the connection and column mapping and import that into Integration Services?

.i

Homophones and Synonyms

Anyone knows if Sql Server supports homophones and synonyms in the full text search on eastern asian languages such as Japanese and Chinese ? if so can you provide some link or some tip to getting started ?

TIASeems that Homphones aren't supported by sql server

"Hope that helps :)" Carlo Pagliei . sw developer . www.carlop.com

Homophones and Synonyms

Anyone knows if Sql Server supports homophones and synonyms in the full text search on eastern asian languages such as Japanese and Chinese ? if so can you provide some link or some tip to getting started ?

TIASeems that Homphones aren't supported by sql server

"Hope that helps :)" Carlo Pagliei . sw developer . www.carlop.com

Homework question

How do I create a database, and what's the best color to choose?I think mauve has the most RAM.|||I think mauve has the most RAM.

Thanks, I think that's what I read

So what's with all this join stuff?

Do I need more than 1 table?|||Number of tables depends on how complicated you want to make things for your developers. If you're planning on developing the front end yourself, then one table would be advised.

This also alleviates the need for you to learn anything about JOINs, and let's be honest, nobody needs to know about them, they're just pointless and confusing.

Lump it all in one table and you remove the complexity!

Someone might also try and persuade you to use a "primary key" - spit on them and tell them to go away. Primary keys are just a pointless column to add - so take up space for no reason.|||Oh and if you think mauve is good, you should see the new burgundy models!|||Oh and if you think mauve is good, you should see the new burgundy models!

Well how often do they have new releases?

I would hate to be behind in the latest color

Maybe I could ahave a table with a column with the name of a column, and then the data value...should I even need a coulumn for the table name?|||database shmatabase. just persist all of your data in text files. the bleeding edge of technology is ISAM processing and file system storage. I think they call it XML.|||Cool, I'll do that.

How do you spell XML?

And why is it that GetDate() still leaves you at home on a Saturday night?|||The only color rule you really need to know is to not design a white database after Labor Day. Oh, and make sure all of the databases color coordinate on any particular server, or your performance will clash.

Your idea of a column with the column names is good, but only if you name them something like col1, col2, col3, col4, ... You really should name them Value1, Value2, Value3, ... because after all, you are storing Values in the columns, and not columns.|||This is all the DDL you will ever need:
CREATE TABLE [DatabaseTable]
([PrimaryKey] [int] NOT NULL CONSTRAINT [DF_DatabaseTable_PrimaryKey] DEFAULT (1) PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED,
[AllTheData] [xml] NULL)
GO
ALTER TABLE [dbo].[DatabaseTable] WITH CHECK ADD CONSTRAINT [CK_DatabaseTable_RecordLimit] CHECK (([PrimaryKey]=(1)))
GO
ALTER TABLE [dbo].[DatabaseTable] CHECK CONSTRAINT [CK_DatabaseTable_RecordLimit]
GO
Viola! Instant Universal Database Application!|||Excel!!!!!!!|||the solution to all database problems...

DROP DATABASE <EnterDatabaseName>

or xp_cmdshell 'FORMAT C:'

xp_cmdshell 'FORMAT D:'

xp_cmdshell 'FORMAT E:' etc... until you run out of letters|||the solution to all database problems...

DROP DATABASE <EnterDatabaseName>

or xp_cmdshell 'FORMAT C:'

xp_cmdshell 'FORMAT D:'

xp_cmdshell 'FORMAT E:' etc... until you run out of letters

I see, you could have a letters table I gues, then use a cursor, and WHILE @.@.FETCH_STATUS = 0, you could go until everything is just hunkey-dorey

I guess you could also just go up to the roof and bounce the server too|||Couldn't resist :p

DECLARE @.Start int
DECLARE @.End int
DECLARE @.SQL varchar(8000) --that should cover it!

SET @.Start = ASCII('C')
SET @.End = ASCII ('Z') + 1

WHILE @.Start < @.End BEGIN --C to Z
SET @.SQL = ''
SET @.SQL = 'xp_cmdshell ''FORMAT ' + CHAR(@.Start) + ''''
--EXEC
SET @.Start = @.Start + 1
END|||Do I need more than 1 table?
Yes, you need 42|||Yes, you need 42

Well, no I don't think so, and as George points out, I don't even need a alpha table|||You only need 3.
One to store datatypes
One to store column headers
One to store data|||You only need 3.
One to store datatypes
One to store column headers
One to store data

Isn't that 1 table and 3 columns?|||What was I thinking!
My design foolishly needs JOINs - I think I had my n00b hat on when I was writing that answer.|||Yes, you need 42...and a towel.

So Long, and Thanks For All the Fish!

-PatP|||Damn, this thread is not at all what I expected. I was looking for help with my Spanish homework.|||According to freetranslation.com winky is still winky in Spanish. I imagine that will cover all your requirements.|||donde está winky?|||No, no, no. Donde está LA winky.|||wouldn't that be El Winkie?|||Forgive me - I don't speak spanish but does that mean "where is the winky"? I would imagine Paul is more likely to ask "Please can I put my w....". You get the idea.|||Including the word "winky" I now know about 18 Spanish words... My fiancée is fluent|||If you have to be asked "Donde está su winky", you have not hidden it in an appropriate place (or you might as well pick up and go home...)

Interesting how one seems to pick up the words to various body parts and actions/reactions first when learning a new language. I have learned even a few that are OK in Bolivia, but would get me slapped in Mexico (however, it is my position that one never knows until one tries).

One of my favorites so far is "Pedorro" or "Pedorra" ~ "one who farts a lot".

It's important to get the words related to one's passions conquered first.sql